Kingspoint Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, BlackJesus said: No. Cine was one of the few S faster than Hill. 4.36 vs 4.38 (40) Thanks, I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spotto Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Thanks Duke, happy with this pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HOF dan Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I cant' say he was on my radar but I didn't dive as deep into this draft as in the past. As Kingspoint said, I wasn't worried about this draft either - we didn't have a glaring need and we've been on a roll the last few years. There were a number of good options and I figured we'd nail one of them (except the TE Likely -not in the first round please). Having said all that, this kid looks like he could develop into a stud. His seemingly only weakness - recognition - improved a lot last year and his versatility is pretty rare. His physical traits appear to be borderline ellite - and he's only 21?! I love Jessie Bates but Dax might make that situation a lot easier to deal with. Great pick! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slag911 Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I figure Hill will be useful in combatting the passing teams like the chiefs. We had some really good games against opponents in the passing game BUT struggled at times in stopping it. I kind of disliked the pic last night on perceived need but now that I know more about him its a good pick. He is from Bitchigan though. Leon Hall was a good player for us for many years so I hope he is the next better version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I'm slowly coming around to this pick. For this year, it'll allow us to play some three safety looks and have additional speed on the field to handle all of the firepower in the AFC. I don't think this ends the JB3 era after this year either. You can still re-sign him and have both Hill and Bates as your primary safeties. If we don't bring Bell back we'd still need a box safety b/c both Bates and Hill can struggle in the tackling department. Overall, this gives Lou some flexibility in his play calling and a little depth for this year. It also starts to prepare us for next year if Bates and/or Bell are gone so we're not starting from ground zero. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Dehner and Morrison had 2 frustrating takes for me. 1. He shouldn't play the Box much 2. This signals this is Bates last year here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Grade A Cincinnati Bengals Draft pick Michigan DB Daxton Hill (No. 31 overall) Analysis: Hill can play anywhere in the secondary. If Jessie Bates, who received the franchise tag this offseason, eventually moves on as a free agent, Hill could end up filling the void at safety full time. With the Ravens taking Tyler Linderbaum, who would have been a nice fit in Cincinnati, off the board six picks earlier, Hill was a sensible pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 8 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Some thinking out loud here. He's not going to be the primary Slot Corner: Hilton is signed to do that for the next 3 years at a very reasonable amount We don't want him to be the primary Deep safety: We want Bates in that role his leadership is important He hasn't played outside corner much at all He has played in the box but is a bit undersized for that Vonn Bell is 5-11 205 he is 6-0 191 We signed Tre Flowers who was adept at guarding TEs If you were starting a team with no players at all he would make a ton of sense. A very high level athlete and versatile playmaker with zero red flags. Plus you can get his brother to come cheap after he is cut from the Ravens this year. I like the pick. I like the player. I like it all if he can play box effectively and stay healthy. He won't struggle to get snaps as the primary backup for 3 starters. He has star written all over him and centerpiece of the defense. He also allows you to pay Bates now and then replace Bates in 4 years as he shifts from box to deep. Which is I think the most likely situation. He's the dime S and corner, primary backup for slot corner, Bell and Bates. Replaces Bell in 2023, replaces Bates in 2027. 2022 Backup 2023 Box 2024 Box 2025 Box 2026 Deep New Contract 2027 Deep 2028 Deep 2029 Deep 2030 Deep 30 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Who wants to guess what cheesy titles Baghdad Hob is going to come up with? The Hill(s) are alive All downHill from here Hill be a star 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 This was posted yesterday before the draft and likely recorded even earlier He talks about Hill saying "When I watch Hill the first thing I wrote down is 'This is Jessie Bates'" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 11 minutes ago, Cat said: Who wants to guess what cheesy titles Baghdad Hob is going to come up with? The Hill(s) are alive All downHill from here Hill be a star Dax the way.....uh huh uh huh.......I like it......uh huh uh huh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 31 Cincinnati Bengals: Daxton Hill, DB, Michigan. Grade: A (Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY Sports) Here. I’ll just place what I wrote in my final mock draft, when I had the Bengals selecting Hill right here with the 31st pick: The Bengals did a lot in free agency to upgrade their offensive line (a veritable and obvious necessity), and they may do more in this particular mock. But they also need help in the secondary — Chidobe Awuzie and Jessie Bates III are great defenders, and the addition of Hill, who can play everywhere from the slot to the deep third to outside cornerback, would give defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo all kinds of options. Yeah, it’s an ideal fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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esjbh2 Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 The only negative I can come up with is that Mel Kiper really, really liked him. (Yeah, I'm not a Kiper fan) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 He should contribute this year as the 3rd S and in packages designed to get him on the field. But also he is a gunner on special teams so hell start there right away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 29 minutes ago, esjbh2 said: The only negative I can come up with is that Mel Kiper really, really liked him. (Yeah, I'm not a Kiper fan) Kiper is a blind squirell at this point - as the old saying goes 'even a blind squirell finds a nut now and again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: This was posted yesterday before the draft and likely recorded even earlier He talks about Hill saying "When I watch Hill the first thing I wrote down is 'This is Jessie Bates'" This clarifies why Dax Hill over Lewis Cine (who was selected with the next pick). Versatility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Nice article on Hill. https://mgoblog.com/content/so-you-wanna-draft-wolverine-daxton-hill?fbclid=IwAR34YYj4-7far2tmJZOVRz10dkoiS6N29PAoh5ZWHV2CJGVI_1Z36SjLGNk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, esjbh2 said: The only negative I can come up with is that Mel Kiper really, really liked him. (Yeah, I'm not a Kiper fan) Kiper said he was the steal of the first round,after bengals took him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snarkster Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Dehner and Morrison had 2 frustrating takes for me. 1. He shouldn't play the Box much 2. This signals this is Bates last year here I like Bates, but safety is pretty much like OG was on offense...the Bengals aren't gonna pay top dollar. He has coverage skills and should be one of the top five DBs. His versatility should have him seeing quite a few snaps (especially as the season wears on). Wouldn't shock me to see them still go CB if the right guy is there, but I'm expecting a front seven or maybe even a TE pick (if McBride or Dulcich is still there) next. will likely see a C or OT taken, but could see them re-sign Spain as depth/camp comp) after the draft if they can get a bargain price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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